It’s a hard conversation that most of us (let’s be honest) don’t want to have. There are people we all know and love who have taken the MAGA path. These are our uncles, our cousins, our high school pals. There’s a moment when you realize that they are just … lost.
But Maya’s guest, Rich Logis from
, doesn’t think that’s exactly right, at least not for every MAGA running around in a red hat and American flag jorts. Rich fell hard for Trump and MAGA in 2015. He produced pro-MAGA content. He dedicated his life to it, sometimes sacrificing his time with his family in favor of his MAGA chosen family.And then he left.
It was a combination of factors that finally got him out (you’ll hear about it in the interview), but once he shed the MAGA hat and burned the Trump flag, he set out to bring others with him.
It sounds harrowing. But it’s a lot simpler than you might imagine. Check out the incredible interview. The live chat was among our most active — as you can imagine. Lots of strong opinions for this one.
We’d love to hear your thoughts, too. Do you think you’d be able to make a first connection with a relative or friend from the MAGA side without losing your mind? Have you already? How did it go? We want to hear from you.
Because all it takes to win next November is peeling off 5% or so from the MAGA voter rolls. Reaching out to those folks might be scary, but it could also be the thing that saves our country.
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