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Anxiety & Empathy in the Age of ICE Raids | Punching Up with Maya May

"There's really no such thing as like a pretty or nice police takedown. If you get arrested, it doesn't usually go well."

It’s gonna take empathy to get where we need to go. As aNational Security a Clinical Psychologist, Dr. Matthew Schumacher worked with law enforcement in Los Angeles prior to the ICE raids. We tend to see the pain and suffering of the immigrants ripped away from their families, and the struggle of protestors being shot with rubber bullets, but he sees a similar anxious struggle happening within the ranks of law enforcement.

Imagine joining up to fight the bad guys, but ending up on the street faced off against your neighbors. He says there’s an internal tension that we don’t always see that can turn dangerous at the drop of a hat … or the toss of a rock.

To make matters worse, we’re all addicted to dopamine — even the cops. We are working for our phones, and they are leaving us on the knife’s edge of anxiety.

Of course, Trump is happy to stoke the anxiety and the conflict between law enforcement and citizens — and non-citizens. The problem is there are very real problems that will continue to go unsolved while we all battle out the culture war.

This was an unexpected and deeply fascinating episode of Punching Up that offered up a perspective we don’t get enough of.

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