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We're Gobbling Up that Mamdani & Trump Meeting | Tim & April

The same culture that mocks AI pop worship can’t stop treating the Mamdani–Trump meeting like a prophecy instead of a political stunt.
  • Trash TV becomes its own anthropology lab once April starts comparing worlds she never grew up in.

  • Tim turns Naked and Afraid into a full-blown existential threat, complete with jump-scare anatomy scenarios.

  • Their takedown of the “We Are Charlie Kirk” AI song digs into how martyrdom culture warps real harm into spectacle.


The energy shifts the moment Tim and April move from reality-TV brain breaks to the full-body cringe of an AI-generated Charlie Kirk ballad, because the absurdity mirrors how easily entertainment logic takes over politics. What’s happening in that song — the forced reverence, the flattened morality, the emotional hijacking — isn’t far off from the breathless fixation on the Mamdani–Trump meeting, where the internet treated a photo-op like destiny and ignored the machinery working underneath it. Their frustration sits in that collision point: a movement that canonizes men who demean Black pilots, trans people, Black women, and civil rights, while ignoring the people actually harmed by the policies it cheers. The whole thing exposes a familiar reflex — to sanctify power, to sentimentalize performance, to turn politics into fandom — and AI just makes the distortion harder to ignore.

Tune in for a conversation that refuses to treat any of that as normal.

Tim Whitaker is the founder of The New Evangelicals, and April Ajoy is the author of Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism And Finding True Faith.

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