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Dr. Deb Houry on Why She Resigned from the CDC | It's the Democracy, Stupid with Edwin Eisendrath

A global health crisis could strike again — and this time, the U.S. may not see it coming.
  • The CDC’s collapse under ideological leadership is leaving Americans less safe and less informed.

  • Decades of bipartisan public health progress are being undone by pseudoscience and political interference.

  • State and local governments are scrambling to rebuild health infrastructure in the absence of federal leadership.


When truth is politicized, prevention becomes impossible. Public health depends on trust, and trust dies when science is treated like an opinion. Dr. Deb Houry, the former Chief Medical Officer and Deputy Director for Program and Science of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, was one of many officials who resigned this summer after Dr. Susan Monarez was fired. Her story is a cautionary tale.

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The dismantling of the CDC isn’t just bureaucratic decay — it’s a moral failure that redefines negligence as ideology. America’s safety once relied on invisible systems quietly saving lives; now, those systems are being silenced. The next outbreak won’t just test our medicine — it will test whether we’ve learned that science without politics is the only kind that saves lives. And if we haven’t, the next crisis won’t expose our weaknesses — it will expose our willful blindness.

Tune in to this urgent conversation on the cost of dismantling America’s public health defense.

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