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Carol Gamm's avatar

Too many are forgetting the students killed in Colorado. They were young people with their whole lives ahead of them. We in the NYC area remember all victims, particularly on 9/11.

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Cristi S.'s avatar

I agree with you that violence is unacceptable, but I find also unacceptable the both-seidism of your claim that "This is not just about one ideology or one party." No honest person would deny that extremism exists on both sides of the political spectrum, but let us not forget the actual FACTS, as reported by Mehdi Hasan in his excellent post on Zeteo (https://open.substack.com/pub/zeteo/p/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email), which I cut and pasted below.

The very juxtaposition Charlie Kirk/Melissa Hortman is tendentious and misleading. Melissa Hortman did not engage in hateful rhetoric that Charlie Kirk trafficked in. Lincoln Square contributor wrote a thoughtful and spot on post (https://open.substack.com/pub/professorealy/p/this-has-to-stop?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=post%20viewer) that decries the tragic death of Charlie Kirk, but is not blind to what Charlie Kirk did and said. I am heartbroken for Charlie Kirk's children, his widow, his family, friends and loved ones, but let us not forget who is stocking the flames of hatred here.

List from Zeteo (https://open.substack.com/pub/zeteo/p/charlie-kirk-killing-political-violence?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email)

The man who targeted and killed Democratic state lawmaker Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark in their home in Minnesota in June was a Trump supporter.

The man charged with the attempted assassination of Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor Josh Shapiro in April was a Trump supporter.

The man convicted of orchestrating a series of hootings at the homes of four Democratic elected officials in New Mexico in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

The man who tried to kidnap then Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband Paul in 2022 was a Trump supporter.

The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6, 2021, were Trump supporters.

The man who killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas in 2020 was a Trump supporter.

The men who were convicted of trying to kidnap Michigan’s Democratic governor Gretchen Whitmer in 2020 were Trump supporters.

The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and other top Democrats in 2018 was a Trump supporter.

The man who killed left-wing activist Heather Heyer after driving his car into a crowd of counter-protesters in Charlottesville in 2017 was a Trump supporter.

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