Now I know what is wrong with Frowning Vance - he's a hillbilly hick and can't understand other peop;e's problems. He and TACO and the rest of the cabinet ALL belong in an insane asylum.
I think Vance's lust for power as the current VP and potentially becoming POTUS overrides any moral connection to protecting his family. Furthermore, his wife, her parents, and their children can always be given special social and financial protection by him and the plutocratic ecosystem in which operates.
There were plenty of high ranking Nazis who had direct ties with Jewish people. They were perfectly willing to protect their friends while the mass terror was carried out in their names. Why would Vance be any different?
A very poignant piece I read recently highlighting what little can be known about Usha Vance's authentic response to being in this predicament. She appears to say she will simply "get through it" somehow. She acknowledged wanting to be back in OH, in their "dream home" living the life she was constructing, including having her own brilliant law career. This MAGA cult treats women abysmally. How crushing to have married such a person! Someone referred to as a "baby Catholic" because he is so very new to that religion. My heart aches for her, for the children, for the choices that she has made leading to this moment of constriction. When I see pictures of her with the three children, I see the non-verbal signs of fear and anxiety, especially with the youngest. Damn
You nailed it, Stuart. And I'd add Stephen Miller and Trump himself to the self-loathing crew. I'd give a hearty Huzzah! to their deserved loathing from whether it comes but the consequences of it for the rest of us are devastating. I will never forgive the idiotic American electorate, including those who stayed home, for what they've done to our country. It would be tragically ironic if the Medicaid cuts improve the voter pool. But perhaps too late, anyway.
I haven’t been able to figure out that marriage since I first heard about it. I read Vance’s book when it was first published years ago. I thought it was a thoughtful approach to an interesting subject and I admired the way he had upped his life. Of course, this was before he became “political”.
Usha seems like an adorable woman, and smart, too. I just hope she and her kids are happy with him.
Isn't it grand that JD's admirers would imagine themselves above the level of Vance's wife and in-laws, whose country of origin had great cities with running water when most MAGA ancestors were busy plastering their palm prints on the walls of caves? And I find it telling that JD, who is evidently a chameleon of the first rank, cosplayed as a Hindu for his wedding.
I don't believe that Vance suffers from anything like "an ugly self-loathing sickness". He has simply shown who he is at his core and that's a deeply amoral individual who will let nothing stand in the way of his self-advancement.
It is a crushing indictment of this man, this administration and I am absolutely certain I never want to see this excuse for a human occupy the oval even for a nanosecond
This is welcome explanation for me. Lots of us grew up with less than ideal conditions. What is twisted here I cannot fathom. He will be useful I guess in the coming fascist regime??
Vance is a classic 'Know Nothing' in his nativist rhetoric and backing of the cruelest policies against immigrants. He's also such a moral black hole, it wouldn't surprise me to hear he's advocating for his own wife's denaturalization and deportation along with his own kids, if he thought it would keep him in Trump's good graces and grease his path to the 2028 republican nomination.
In addition to Usha Vance and her children, we should point out that Ivana Trump gave birth to Junior, Eric and Ivanka before she became a naturalized citizen. Likewise, Melania Trump gave birth to Barron before she became a citizen. The only Trump spawn to be born to both US citizen parents was Tiffany. So, we could conclude that 4 out of 5 Trump kids are 'anchor babies' and so are all of JD MyName'sNotReallyVance's kids.
One last thought: Some of my ancestors were Irish, so today's rhetoric aimed at Mexican and other non-white immigrants is very familiar. Irish immigrants were portrayed as dirty, disease-ridden, prone to substance abuse, and inherently violent. They were denied employment [No Irish Need Apply], so they ended up doing the dirty, manual labor 'real Americans' would't do like digging canals, laying railroads, cleaning houses. Sound familiar? The Irish didn't 'become white' until they started voting in large numbers - which is why Trump and his Neo-Know Nothings are lying so often about non-citizen, brown people voting.
Some of the ugliest parts of our history are repeating themselves, because the underlying hate has never gone away.
Yeah the immigrants in their own family, they are all wacko. It’s all bullshit and lies like they always tell. Doublespeak. ORWELL WAS RIGHT, new slogan. And Remember Jayne Wyman was right too.
We see this compartmentalism in Republican Party members for many things. The fake pro-life movement that bans abortion while women die or become infertile from complications of miscarriages or full term births. Bans on birth control. Children, once they leave the womb are not worth caring for; love the fetus hate the child. Gay rights: gays in Congress fight to stop equal access and full rights to LGBTQ+ people. It’s nuts. 🌰 🥜🔩
We really do need another repsonse besides "like" and "don't like." How can anyone like such news? You are quite accurate - Trump's whole entrouage is composed of broken and diseased people. Some, i think, self-injured, self-mutilated.
I dunno. His and his boss's kids are half "real American." Surely the administration can trust its Old Testament experts to find a new Solomon to solve the problem.
My mother is also from eastern Kentucky and grew up in a similarly violent and dysfunctional environment. (As an aside, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out I’m related to hillbilly.)
Speaking from experience, generations of this kind of abuse breed very broken people who are incapable of empathy. I’m not surprised he’d do this to his own children as the child of someone from that region who told me they couldn’t wait for God to judge me for my efforts to speak out against Christian Nationalism. People this damaged have no idea how to love or care for anyone. Children are merely puppet extensions of the narcissist parent who are always expected to perform to the parent’s expectations and make the parent look good.
And yes, his kids deserve better. Maybe they’ll be ok and maybe they won’t, but I have so much empathy for them.
Vance is part of the American NAZI party.
One certain thing: JD Vance truly overmarried.
Now I know what is wrong with Frowning Vance - he's a hillbilly hick and can't understand other peop;e's problems. He and TACO and the rest of the cabinet ALL belong in an insane asylum.
I think Vance's lust for power as the current VP and potentially becoming POTUS overrides any moral connection to protecting his family. Furthermore, his wife, her parents, and their children can always be given special social and financial protection by him and the plutocratic ecosystem in which operates.
There were plenty of high ranking Nazis who had direct ties with Jewish people. They were perfectly willing to protect their friends while the mass terror was carried out in their names. Why would Vance be any different?
A very poignant piece I read recently highlighting what little can be known about Usha Vance's authentic response to being in this predicament. She appears to say she will simply "get through it" somehow. She acknowledged wanting to be back in OH, in their "dream home" living the life she was constructing, including having her own brilliant law career. This MAGA cult treats women abysmally. How crushing to have married such a person! Someone referred to as a "baby Catholic" because he is so very new to that religion. My heart aches for her, for the children, for the choices that she has made leading to this moment of constriction. When I see pictures of her with the three children, I see the non-verbal signs of fear and anxiety, especially with the youngest. Damn
You nailed it, Stuart. And I'd add Stephen Miller and Trump himself to the self-loathing crew. I'd give a hearty Huzzah! to their deserved loathing from whether it comes but the consequences of it for the rest of us are devastating. I will never forgive the idiotic American electorate, including those who stayed home, for what they've done to our country. It would be tragically ironic if the Medicaid cuts improve the voter pool. But perhaps too late, anyway.
I haven’t been able to figure out that marriage since I first heard about it. I read Vance’s book when it was first published years ago. I thought it was a thoughtful approach to an interesting subject and I admired the way he had upped his life. Of course, this was before he became “political”.
Usha seems like an adorable woman, and smart, too. I just hope she and her kids are happy with him.
Isn't it grand that JD's admirers would imagine themselves above the level of Vance's wife and in-laws, whose country of origin had great cities with running water when most MAGA ancestors were busy plastering their palm prints on the walls of caves? And I find it telling that JD, who is evidently a chameleon of the first rank, cosplayed as a Hindu for his wedding.
I don't believe that Vance suffers from anything like "an ugly self-loathing sickness". He has simply shown who he is at his core and that's a deeply amoral individual who will let nothing stand in the way of his self-advancement.
It is a crushing indictment of this man, this administration and I am absolutely certain I never want to see this excuse for a human occupy the oval even for a nanosecond
This is welcome explanation for me. Lots of us grew up with less than ideal conditions. What is twisted here I cannot fathom. He will be useful I guess in the coming fascist regime??
Vance is a classic 'Know Nothing' in his nativist rhetoric and backing of the cruelest policies against immigrants. He's also such a moral black hole, it wouldn't surprise me to hear he's advocating for his own wife's denaturalization and deportation along with his own kids, if he thought it would keep him in Trump's good graces and grease his path to the 2028 republican nomination.
In addition to Usha Vance and her children, we should point out that Ivana Trump gave birth to Junior, Eric and Ivanka before she became a naturalized citizen. Likewise, Melania Trump gave birth to Barron before she became a citizen. The only Trump spawn to be born to both US citizen parents was Tiffany. So, we could conclude that 4 out of 5 Trump kids are 'anchor babies' and so are all of JD MyName'sNotReallyVance's kids.
One last thought: Some of my ancestors were Irish, so today's rhetoric aimed at Mexican and other non-white immigrants is very familiar. Irish immigrants were portrayed as dirty, disease-ridden, prone to substance abuse, and inherently violent. They were denied employment [No Irish Need Apply], so they ended up doing the dirty, manual labor 'real Americans' would't do like digging canals, laying railroads, cleaning houses. Sound familiar? The Irish didn't 'become white' until they started voting in large numbers - which is why Trump and his Neo-Know Nothings are lying so often about non-citizen, brown people voting.
Some of the ugliest parts of our history are repeating themselves, because the underlying hate has never gone away.
Yeah the immigrants in their own family, they are all wacko. It’s all bullshit and lies like they always tell. Doublespeak. ORWELL WAS RIGHT, new slogan. And Remember Jayne Wyman was right too.
We see this compartmentalism in Republican Party members for many things. The fake pro-life movement that bans abortion while women die or become infertile from complications of miscarriages or full term births. Bans on birth control. Children, once they leave the womb are not worth caring for; love the fetus hate the child. Gay rights: gays in Congress fight to stop equal access and full rights to LGBTQ+ people. It’s nuts. 🌰 🥜🔩
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We really do need another repsonse besides "like" and "don't like." How can anyone like such news? You are quite accurate - Trump's whole entrouage is composed of broken and diseased people. Some, i think, self-injured, self-mutilated.
I dunno. His and his boss's kids are half "real American." Surely the administration can trust its Old Testament experts to find a new Solomon to solve the problem.
My mother is also from eastern Kentucky and grew up in a similarly violent and dysfunctional environment. (As an aside, I wouldn’t be surprised to find out I’m related to hillbilly.)
Speaking from experience, generations of this kind of abuse breed very broken people who are incapable of empathy. I’m not surprised he’d do this to his own children as the child of someone from that region who told me they couldn’t wait for God to judge me for my efforts to speak out against Christian Nationalism. People this damaged have no idea how to love or care for anyone. Children are merely puppet extensions of the narcissist parent who are always expected to perform to the parent’s expectations and make the parent look good.
And yes, his kids deserve better. Maybe they’ll be ok and maybe they won’t, but I have so much empathy for them.