this......"It was the perfect diversion. Instead of answering for an Epstein birthday book, NATO allies incurring attacks, or his obvious health decline, Trump and Republicans now had a ready-made crisis to weaponize. A murder that could be spun into a political shield" .......
tRUMP and the right could give 2 shits about CK...what they loved about him was what he brought to the table for them to perpetuate their agenda of hate and violence toward people they labeled as "them"...immigrants, gays, liberals, people of color and women....any one not white, male and christian.....
CK was a vile, disgusting, bigot and racist human being....did he deserve to be murdered ? ....fuck no !....no one deserves to have their life taken at the hands of another just for disagreeing with their right of free speech....no mater how hateful (or not hateful enough)
But maga will always take the opportunity to take a tragedy to spew lies and falsehoods and turn it into a political weapon when it best suits them against the left and marginalized of our society.
what's amazing is....with more information coming out about who the shooter and his family are...now that the right is realizing after sticking both feet in their mouths accusing Democrats and people on the left of violence...are now asking for people to pray for the shooter to seek forgiveness ? ......really ?
like the dim bulb bigot Governor of Utah said, he wished it was not one of "US"... an "OTHER"....someone from another state or country, not one of "US"....WOW ! ....talk about letting the dog whistles blow loud and clear ! ....
Even more amazing is it's now becoming more clear that the [alleged] shooter was part of the [ MAGA's Groyper Problem ] .....who absolutely hated CK because they didn't consider him far enough right.
even tRUMP and his poisonous sycophants are too stupid to realize that the monster that the maga and the radical right has created is now coming for them.........
Flags at half-staff ? ....having this POS's body to lie in state ? ....the republicans push for a monument for CK in the capital ? ....are you fucking kidding me ? .....all this when two state legislators and their dog were gunned down and murdered in their home and two others were wounded by the same maga dirtbag....tRUMP says he didn't have time to waste with that....
RELEASE THE FUCKIN EPSTEIN FILES AND SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN !!!!!!
Anger is double edged sword It can be destructive which gives this emotion a bad rap But it can be constructive when used in way to respond to threat WE the People are under a Nazi takeover threat and WE are angry at what is transpiring Our only hope is that the Democratic Party can meet the moment with anger and continue to not play by the rules and civility to quash the Nazis in what can only be termed a political civil war
With that said WE the People are behind the Democrats no matter how bad we may think their policies are because they stand between the democratic republic and a Russian dictatorship And I think that there is enough public animosity about this Nazi takeover that a Congressional mandate will become apparent in the 2026 midterms
So what does a Democratic platform look like? It better be darn close to what that anger that brought about the Democratic election results No more civility No more compromise No more reaching across the aisle It should look like a knockdown drag out fight and no taking prisioners This should include election reform to include mandatory mail in voting in every state and removal of gerrymandering , SCOTUS expansion, abortion rights and women’s reproductive health initiatives, end Citizens United and big money in politics, AND revocation of tax relief for billionaires and corporations
It is possible to denounce political violence without sanitizing a person who peddled in hatred. Thank you for treading that line. Moving forward, is anyone who doesn’t support Trump now in mortal danger? This seems to be the message the GOP is spreading.
I learned far more about the occurrence and after effects from you than from anyone else, including some others I deeply respect.
Charlie was an exploiter. He profited from being one of many who enjoyed ripping the fabric of America apart; he loved the attention, the money and the power. He was Trump’s kind of person.
Violence of all natures is wrong. Political, racial, and religious violence even more so. The death of Kirk only served the political far right. But it is a sad demonstration of the meaning of Hosea 8:7. I can neither feel outrage or empathy regarding his death, only towards the action that produced it.
There are far too many out there, especially Democratic leadership and the ‘leadership’ of the anti-Trump movement who, by being so decent and kind, give a signal of weakness to the far right. I don’t want Charlie to be demonized by them after his death, he showed his demon history in his life. But I don’t want hypocrisy from them, either. I’m a child of the ‘60s, and I remember where I was when JFK was shot (6th grade classroom, right after lunch). I remember RFK’s assassination, and MLK Jr assassination, and the outcome from each. We shouldn’t want to go there. But IMO, the right does. They see it as a motivation to action much as the Reichstag fire was. We need to prevent that but not by being lambs led to the slaughterhouse.
Sure, what goes around comes around, but it doesn’t make it right. There are far too many Charlie wannabe’s out there who know that it’s a money making enterprise with other benefits, and they will fight to step into his place. And you can be sure that the one who gets the job will be the one who appeals to the far right moneyed class and to DJT.
Well, let's see. Charlie Kirk was of the opinion that people massacred by guns were nothing more than offerings to the almighty Second Amendment. I wonder if he still thinks that.
"And yet, Democrats ... played their assigned role in the outrage economy: the respectful opposition, the ones who could be gaslit into memorializing a man whose life’s work was dedicated to their destruction — no matter how much it pissed off their voters."
Okay. What do you suggest Democrats do?
Ignore the death? That's what Republicans do when a Democrat is murdered or wounded. Is that what we want to be?
Express relief that the asshole was dead? Even their own voters would revile that.
What, Evan?
Ever since last November, we've seen endless criticism of Democratic responses—or failure to respond—to the crisis we're living in. NOBODY EVER SAYS WHAT DEMOCRATS SHOULD DO.
I'm sick of it.
We are well aware of the charges against the party. What we need are solutions. We're desperate for solutions.
I suggest they fight back to control the narrative when the president of the united states suggests he’s going to come after “leftists” instead of saying “Oop that’s not us.”
Rhetoric has been weaponized against an entire wing for the Democratic Party and leadership has been practically silent outside of eulogizing someone that hated them.
Until Democrats have the fortitude to control the narrative and stand up against this violent rhetoric spewed by Republicans — this will happen over and over again.
This is a very good and honest look at the last couple of days. Thank you. I want to add that I saw a response on IG by Shahid King Bolsen which I thought was another good analysis. One thing he said really stuck out to me "Charlie Kirk is not the enemy. The enemy is the society that created boys like Charlie Kirk" While very true, Charlie Kirk was a grown man, not a boy, who was duly capable of making his own decisions to be a hateful guy and he has suffered the consequences of his decision to be the type of person he was. Our society gave him the platform to spew his venomous hate to millions.
Well said! Republicans are merchants of death and wonder why 90% of political violence comes from their brethren. Dems play pattycake with the bully and wonder why they lose all the time to a party that has destroyed so much, so quickly. Republicans are repulsive and dems embarrassingly weak. As Lincoln Square founder Stuart Stevens has noted many times, better wrong and strong than weak and right. Dems always play the weak and right card as flags are lowered at trump's godawful White house for a racist podcaster but not for legislators killed in MN by a fanatical right wing extremist. Satan blushes...
Thanks for putting things in "plain English." Kirk was, indeed, an enterprising monster, stirring up young audiences who were not energetic enough to challenge the nonsense he spouted. No flags should be at half-staff for such a person. Murder is always terrible. Kirk was a misguided young man who put himself in positions no one should be.
Yes, Bob. In addition, Putin is the reason that Trump is in power and very rich. Trump has the ongoing advice of Putin to consolidate his early learning from his abusive father, Fred, Roy Cohn, and Mein Kampf. He has studied the "masters" about how to promote division, create chaos, and use the big lie to stay in power. Putin's KGB experience, intelligence, "charming" psychopathic style (not coarse like Trump's), and motivation for revenge for the 1991 dismantling of the Soviet Union by the USA.
Most Americans are not educated, trained, or know how to stop the psychopathy, sociopathy, sadism, and malignant narcissism of people who have so far succeeded in overturning our constitution by exploiting our vulnerabilities. Trump has no reason to promote unity b/c what he does works. Lincoln Square gets under Trump's skin very well. Time to take the next steps and further expose his history and M.O. with Putin and the Russian Mafia. I have a hunch that Trump does not dare defy Putin or Trump is toast. Why not go after and expose in a chronic hammering way, with evidence, Trump's history going back to the beginning with Fred, Cohn, Hitler, Putin, Xi Jinping, Jong-Un, Than Putin and the connections to the women. Allegedly (I have no proof, maybe conspiracy theory) Ivana and Melania knew Putin before they knew Trump. I sure hope that's fake news.
Evan: Thank you for an honest, factual, thoughtful distillation of the past few day's events. Immediately after the shooting I was appalled to see mainstream media and leaders on the left furiously scrambling to sanitize his clearly documented history of fear and hate mongering, his bigotry, racism and mysogyny. No one celebrates a murder but it is absolutely unacceptable to whitewash the essence of a monster in the pursuit of civility.
this......"It was the perfect diversion. Instead of answering for an Epstein birthday book, NATO allies incurring attacks, or his obvious health decline, Trump and Republicans now had a ready-made crisis to weaponize. A murder that could be spun into a political shield" .......
tRUMP and the right could give 2 shits about CK...what they loved about him was what he brought to the table for them to perpetuate their agenda of hate and violence toward people they labeled as "them"...immigrants, gays, liberals, people of color and women....any one not white, male and christian.....
CK was a vile, disgusting, bigot and racist human being....did he deserve to be murdered ? ....fuck no !....no one deserves to have their life taken at the hands of another just for disagreeing with their right of free speech....no mater how hateful (or not hateful enough)
But maga will always take the opportunity to take a tragedy to spew lies and falsehoods and turn it into a political weapon when it best suits them against the left and marginalized of our society.
what's amazing is....with more information coming out about who the shooter and his family are...now that the right is realizing after sticking both feet in their mouths accusing Democrats and people on the left of violence...are now asking for people to pray for the shooter to seek forgiveness ? ......really ?
like the dim bulb bigot Governor of Utah said, he wished it was not one of "US"... an "OTHER"....someone from another state or country, not one of "US"....WOW ! ....talk about letting the dog whistles blow loud and clear ! ....
Even more amazing is it's now becoming more clear that the [alleged] shooter was part of the [ MAGA's Groyper Problem ] .....who absolutely hated CK because they didn't consider him far enough right.
even tRUMP and his poisonous sycophants are too stupid to realize that the monster that the maga and the radical right has created is now coming for them.........
Flags at half-staff ? ....having this POS's body to lie in state ? ....the republicans push for a monument for CK in the capital ? ....are you fucking kidding me ? .....all this when two state legislators and their dog were gunned down and murdered in their home and two others were wounded by the same maga dirtbag....tRUMP says he didn't have time to waste with that....
RELEASE THE FUCKIN EPSTEIN FILES AND SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN !!!!!!
Using The Angry Mob Mentality For Change
Anger is double edged sword It can be destructive which gives this emotion a bad rap But it can be constructive when used in way to respond to threat WE the People are under a Nazi takeover threat and WE are angry at what is transpiring Our only hope is that the Democratic Party can meet the moment with anger and continue to not play by the rules and civility to quash the Nazis in what can only be termed a political civil war
With that said WE the People are behind the Democrats no matter how bad we may think their policies are because they stand between the democratic republic and a Russian dictatorship And I think that there is enough public animosity about this Nazi takeover that a Congressional mandate will become apparent in the 2026 midterms
So what does a Democratic platform look like? It better be darn close to what that anger that brought about the Democratic election results No more civility No more compromise No more reaching across the aisle It should look like a knockdown drag out fight and no taking prisioners This should include election reform to include mandatory mail in voting in every state and removal of gerrymandering , SCOTUS expansion, abortion rights and women’s reproductive health initiatives, end Citizens United and big money in politics, AND revocation of tax relief for billionaires and corporations
It is possible to denounce political violence without sanitizing a person who peddled in hatred. Thank you for treading that line. Moving forward, is anyone who doesn’t support Trump now in mortal danger? This seems to be the message the GOP is spreading.
Those who live by the sword (gun) die by the sword.
Well said, Evan
I learned far more about the occurrence and after effects from you than from anyone else, including some others I deeply respect.
Charlie was an exploiter. He profited from being one of many who enjoyed ripping the fabric of America apart; he loved the attention, the money and the power. He was Trump’s kind of person.
Violence of all natures is wrong. Political, racial, and religious violence even more so. The death of Kirk only served the political far right. But it is a sad demonstration of the meaning of Hosea 8:7. I can neither feel outrage or empathy regarding his death, only towards the action that produced it.
There are far too many out there, especially Democratic leadership and the ‘leadership’ of the anti-Trump movement who, by being so decent and kind, give a signal of weakness to the far right. I don’t want Charlie to be demonized by them after his death, he showed his demon history in his life. But I don’t want hypocrisy from them, either. I’m a child of the ‘60s, and I remember where I was when JFK was shot (6th grade classroom, right after lunch). I remember RFK’s assassination, and MLK Jr assassination, and the outcome from each. We shouldn’t want to go there. But IMO, the right does. They see it as a motivation to action much as the Reichstag fire was. We need to prevent that but not by being lambs led to the slaughterhouse.
Sure, what goes around comes around, but it doesn’t make it right. There are far too many Charlie wannabe’s out there who know that it’s a money making enterprise with other benefits, and they will fight to step into his place. And you can be sure that the one who gets the job will be the one who appeals to the far right moneyed class and to DJT.
Well, let's see. Charlie Kirk was of the opinion that people massacred by guns were nothing more than offerings to the almighty Second Amendment. I wonder if he still thinks that.
"And yet, Democrats ... played their assigned role in the outrage economy: the respectful opposition, the ones who could be gaslit into memorializing a man whose life’s work was dedicated to their destruction — no matter how much it pissed off their voters."
Okay. What do you suggest Democrats do?
Ignore the death? That's what Republicans do when a Democrat is murdered or wounded. Is that what we want to be?
Express relief that the asshole was dead? Even their own voters would revile that.
What, Evan?
Ever since last November, we've seen endless criticism of Democratic responses—or failure to respond—to the crisis we're living in. NOBODY EVER SAYS WHAT DEMOCRATS SHOULD DO.
I'm sick of it.
We are well aware of the charges against the party. What we need are solutions. We're desperate for solutions.
So put up or shut up.
I suggest they fight back to control the narrative when the president of the united states suggests he’s going to come after “leftists” instead of saying “Oop that’s not us.”
Rhetoric has been weaponized against an entire wing for the Democratic Party and leadership has been practically silent outside of eulogizing someone that hated them.
Until Democrats have the fortitude to control the narrative and stand up against this violent rhetoric spewed by Republicans — this will happen over and over again.
This is a very good and honest look at the last couple of days. Thank you. I want to add that I saw a response on IG by Shahid King Bolsen which I thought was another good analysis. One thing he said really stuck out to me "Charlie Kirk is not the enemy. The enemy is the society that created boys like Charlie Kirk" While very true, Charlie Kirk was a grown man, not a boy, who was duly capable of making his own decisions to be a hateful guy and he has suffered the consequences of his decision to be the type of person he was. Our society gave him the platform to spew his venomous hate to millions.
Thanks, Evan. Very well said.
❤️
Well said! Republicans are merchants of death and wonder why 90% of political violence comes from their brethren. Dems play pattycake with the bully and wonder why they lose all the time to a party that has destroyed so much, so quickly. Republicans are repulsive and dems embarrassingly weak. As Lincoln Square founder Stuart Stevens has noted many times, better wrong and strong than weak and right. Dems always play the weak and right card as flags are lowered at trump's godawful White house for a racist podcaster but not for legislators killed in MN by a fanatical right wing extremist. Satan blushes...
Thanks for putting things in "plain English." Kirk was, indeed, an enterprising monster, stirring up young audiences who were not energetic enough to challenge the nonsense he spouted. No flags should be at half-staff for such a person. Murder is always terrible. Kirk was a misguided young man who put himself in positions no one should be.
Yes, Bob. In addition, Putin is the reason that Trump is in power and very rich. Trump has the ongoing advice of Putin to consolidate his early learning from his abusive father, Fred, Roy Cohn, and Mein Kampf. He has studied the "masters" about how to promote division, create chaos, and use the big lie to stay in power. Putin's KGB experience, intelligence, "charming" psychopathic style (not coarse like Trump's), and motivation for revenge for the 1991 dismantling of the Soviet Union by the USA.
Most Americans are not educated, trained, or know how to stop the psychopathy, sociopathy, sadism, and malignant narcissism of people who have so far succeeded in overturning our constitution by exploiting our vulnerabilities. Trump has no reason to promote unity b/c what he does works. Lincoln Square gets under Trump's skin very well. Time to take the next steps and further expose his history and M.O. with Putin and the Russian Mafia. I have a hunch that Trump does not dare defy Putin or Trump is toast. Why not go after and expose in a chronic hammering way, with evidence, Trump's history going back to the beginning with Fred, Cohn, Hitler, Putin, Xi Jinping, Jong-Un, Than Putin and the connections to the women. Allegedly (I have no proof, maybe conspiracy theory) Ivana and Melania knew Putin before they knew Trump. I sure hope that's fake news.
Evan: Thank you for an honest, factual, thoughtful distillation of the past few day's events. Immediately after the shooting I was appalled to see mainstream media and leaders on the left furiously scrambling to sanitize his clearly documented history of fear and hate mongering, his bigotry, racism and mysogyny. No one celebrates a murder but it is absolutely unacceptable to whitewash the essence of a monster in the pursuit of civility.
Thank you for stating the facts.
Fact:
TRUMP IS THE REASON HIS LITTLE NAZI SYCOPHANT (aka Charlie Kirk) IS DEAD.
Full stop.
He was the embodiment of the party of hate